Hobbit Topic #10

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In the folktale “The Three Little Pigs” repetition is used as a literary device when the Big, Bad Wolf says, “Little pig, little pig, let me in,” over and over again. For this journal entry, now that you’ve read to page 120 in The Hobbit, please comment on the following, numbering your responses:

  1. Name a folktale that uses repetition.
  2. Quote the words or describe the events that are repeated in that tale.
  3. What elements of The Hobbit remind you of folklore you’ve heard or read before?
  4. How is The Hobbit different from your example of folklore?

I know it’s difficult, but try not to repeat the same answers that others give. So I’m going to use “The Three Little Pigs” in the following example, therefore, you cannot use it in your response:

SAMPLE RESPONSE FOR HOBBIT TOPIC #10:

  1. “The Three Little Pigs” uses repetition.
  2. The Wolf knocks on each of three pigs’ doors and says, “Little pig, little pig, let me in,” in this fable.
  3. Tolkien’s The Hobbit uses wolves as antagonists (bad guys), and this reminds me of the fable, “The Three Little Pigs”.
  4. The Hobbit is different from “The Three Little Pigs” in that it has a clan of intelligent wolves who band together with goblins, forming a political war-like union, instead of just one wolf who’s hungry and wants to fill his tummy.

Now that I’ve used “The Three Little Pigs” please don’t use that example. Come up with your own. Need some ideas? Look inside a book of fairy tales or search for fairy tales on wikipedia. Here are some helpful links:

Note: at the bottom of these wikipedia articles (if you scroll down) you may find links to actual stories you could read, so your responses will be about a folktale that no one else has used in their comments.

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  1. 1. the ginger bread man
    2. you can’t catch me im the ginger bread man
    3. in the hobbit the wolves try to catch them as the wolf tried to catch the ginger bread man
    4. there is no talking and running ginger cookies in the hobbit

  2. 1.Puss N Boots.
    2.Puss will bring animals to the castle for the queen and king, and telling them what type of animal it is.
    3.They both travel but Puss don’t as much.
    4.It is different because in the Hobbit there is wierd creatures like trolls, goblins and such, but Puss N Boots dose not they have animals like cats, donkeys, and a rabbit. But none of them are like trolls or goblins…

  3. 1. A book that I read back in early elementary school, called “Dinosaurs”.
    2. It stated “Dinosaurs, dinosaurs, a long time ago” a few times.
    3 Well… it’s a book… Uh… Doesn’t really relate to the book in many ways.
    4. I find “The Hobbit”, boring and has too many pages… I found “Dinosaurs” interesting and fun multiple years ago.

    • “Dinosaurs” is not a folk tale. The assignment for Hobbit Topic #10 required that you READ a folk tale (like, now–today–not back in elementary school) and then compare how our novel, The Hobbit is like folklore. I won’t give you credit for this journal topic until you answer the question properly… Sorry. Just doing my job.

  4. 1.”Goldilocks and the Three Bears”
    2.Goldilocks goes into the three bears house even though she has no idea whos house it is and eats all their food sits in each of their chairs and lays down in each of their beds but then when the bears come home they say repeatingly “who ate my porage?”
    3.It doesnt remind me of anything.
    4.They are different in numerous ways. To many for me to even name…

  5. 1.”Goldilocks and the Three Bears”
    2.Goldilocks go into a house that she has no idea of the owner amd eats their food sits in the owners chairs and sleeps in their beds and each bear that comes in and repeats “who ate my porage?”
    3.They dont seem alike to me at all.
    4.In numerous ways. To many for me to even count.

  6. molly whuppie uses repitition
    ☺ molly tricked the giant and took his things and he never got her cause he would not cross the bridge of hair
    ☺ molly is the shotest and the youngest so she is like a dwarf
    ☺ in the book there was a trick played so they are alike in that way

    • Your journal entry needs to explain these things better:
      What is repeated in “Molly Whuppie”? Does someone say something over and over again? What is said? Also, what trick is played in The Hobbit?

  7. 1.”The Tortoise and The Hare” uses repetition
    2. The Hare keeps saying how fast he is and that no one can beat him
    3. Gandalf is very confident and so is the Hare(:
    4. There isn’t goblins, wizards, or anything that is completely unreal. I mean come on a talking rabbit and turtle isn’t outta the ordinary(: but goblins and wizards and dragons sure are!

  8. 1. “Brer Fox catches old man Tarrypin”
    2. Old man Tarrypin keeps saying “i dare you to come down here.” The frogs also say “knee deeo water.”
    3. The hobbit reminds me of the fox as the antagonist like the wolves are.
    4. This is different because the protagonist teases the fox and the protagonists in the Hobbit dont tease the wolves

    • Hey jc student #14: Did it occur to you what the frogs are really saying, when they say “Knee deep?” That’s the sound a frog makes! In American English, we tend to say “ribbit” for the frog’s sound, but it really does sound a lot more like “nee-deep” if you think about it.

      I’m not sure what you mean by “The hobbit reminds me of the fox as the antagonist like the wolves are.” Can you explain what you mean by that?

  9. *1. “The Three Billy Goats Gruff” uses repetition.
    *2. Three goats want to cross a bridge to get to the green hill on the other side. The smallest of the three goats crosses the bridge and is immediately threatened to be gobbled up. The same happens with the other two goats.
    *3. In “The Hobbit”, the evil gobblins reminds me of the gobblin in “Three Billy Goats Gruff”
    *4. “The Three Billy Goats Gruff” is different from J.R.R. Tolkien’s story “The Hobbit” because in The Hobbit there are many gobblins that live in a cave, instead of under a bridge, and they eat dwarves and other meat, instead of just eating goats.

    • You know, MegahnStudent#5, I almost used “The Three Billy Goats Gruff” for my example, because it does exemplify repetition and the grotesque antagonists (i.e. goblins/trolls) so well. But note, on your #3, you call the villain in “The Three Billy Goats Gruff” a “goblin” when he was actually a troll. Furthermore, trolls appear in one of the early scenes in The Hobbit too.

  10. 1. ”The Boy Who Cried Wolf”
    2. Wolf!..wolf!..help!..wolf!
    3. The wolf is like the wolf the the hobbit it wants to eat the dwarfs because the wolf wants to eat the sheep.
    4. There isn’t a little boy who cries ”wolf”.

  11. 1.” The boy who cried wolf”’
    2. Wolf!..wolf!..help .wolf!,…ect.
    3. The wolf reminds me of the wolves in the hobbit cause they want to eat the dwarfs just like the want to eat the sheep in the story The boy who cried wolf.
    4. There isn’t a little boy yelling wolf.

  12. 1The Little Red Hen
    2will you help me plant the wheat? will you help me harvest the wheat?…. ect
    3the animals are like the dwarves because they are lazy
    4the animals in the hobbit dont talk

    • TysonStudent #15: What the heck? Are you reading the same novel as the rest of us? If the dwarves are so lazy, how are they able to traverse so many miles? If the animals in this novel don’t talk, then what were the Wargs doing? And the Eagles too?

      I do, however, agree that The Little Red Hen is a good example of folklore using repetition. That makes sense.

  13. 1.”Goldilocks and The Three Bears” uses repetition.
    2.They use repetition like: “Who’s been sitting in my chair?” when they find that Goldilocks has sat in it. and “Who’s been eating my pourage?” when they see that Goldilocks has ate some of it.
    3.In “The Hobbit” they go out on adventures in the forest. In “Goldilocks and the Three Bears” the bears also go out on a walk, but in the forest as well.
    4.There are no bears in “The Hobbit” as far as i know, and three of the main characters in “Goldilocks and the Three Bears” are bears.

  14. 1.” The Gingerbread Man”
    2.”Run Run as fast as you can you can’t catch me i’m the gingerbread man.”
    3.That the wolves in the Hobbit won’t leave them in the tree and the wolf in the Gingerbread man wont leave the gingerbread man alone.
    4.In the Gingerbread man they have real animals chasing after him andin the Hobbit htye khave a bunch of myhtical creatures after them and getting them into trouble.

    • I’m having trouble seeing your point in #4 here. How are the animals in “The Gingerbread Man” different from the wolves/eagles in “The Hobbit”? What mythical creatures do you mean here?

      • Like the giant spiders, the skin changer, the goblins, Gollum, trolls, and dragons.

  15. 1.Hansel and Grettel.
    2.The old lady has her stick out her finger and tell her it’s not fat enough.
    3.Something they think is the solution puts them in a worse situation (in Hansel and Grettel they think bread crumbs will help them and in The Hobbit they think going into the cave will help them and both ideas backfire which happens in lots of other folklore too).
    4.In the Hobbit almost everything happening seems/is impossible and in most of the folklore I know there is more truth to it.

    • What? Huh? CooperStudent10, folklore has more truth to it? How many pigs build houses out of bricks in real life? How many bears eat porridge? Have you ever known any fairy godmothers? I think you’re full of hoo-ha on #4 here.

      Your #3 makes a pretty good point though.

  16. A folklore i enjoyed and have read many times to myself and others, is Humpty Dumpty. It has a very unique repetitive style. The words “Humpty Dumty” are used a lot in the story. (Therefore the name of the folklore is Humpty Dumpty:). As the story is being told, the author has used the two words to make the story have a repetitive theme.The elements of The Hobbit are very unrealistic as in Humpty Dumpty. There really are no such thing as eggs that get fixed by the king because they fell off a wall, nor are there such things as goblins and wizards.The Hobbit has adventures that are very risky, and that poor little egg did have a risky adventure falling off that HUGE wall.(he doesnt need to live, eggs come in a dozen, there are 11 more eggs!!)

  17. 1. The Ginger Bread Man.
    2. “You can’t catch me, I’m the Ginger Bread Man.”
    3.There are wolves trying to catch food in both stories.
    4.The “Hobbit” doesn’t have a talking ginger bread cookie.

  18. 1.”The Three Bears” uses repetion.
    2. Goldylocks finds something wrong with all of the things that she finds in the bears house. Like “This porage is to cold”, “This porage is to hot”, “This porage is just right” then again when she sits in the familys chairs and breaks the baby bears small chair. Also when she tries to go to sleep in the papa, mama, and baby bears beds.
    3. Well in The Hobbit Gandalf uses Bilbo as a burgler for the adventure of getting the treasue back from the dragon Smaug. And in The Three Bears Goldylocks is like a burgler because she gos into the bears house and eats their food and breaks the chair, and just makes herself at home when she doesnt know who lives there.
    4. The Hobbit is different from The Three Bears by Biblo kinda knows what he is going to steal as a burgler and he knows he is used for this purpose. Goldylocks doesnt know she is really doing anything bad she has just lost her way and has came upon the bears house. So she doesnt know that she is in this case a burgler.

  19. 1.”Goldie Locks”
    2.Goldie Locks first tries the Pappa’s then the Momma’s then the Baby bears every single time.
    3.There are things in both stories that aren’t real such as bears don’t talk or live in houses and hobbits and goblins and wizards ect do not exist.
    4.There are only four characters in “Goldie Locks” and there are many more then four in “The Hobbit” and the story line is WAY different they are no where near the same.

  20. 1.The giant in jack and the bean stock uses repetition.
    2.When the giant walks he says fe,fi,fo,fum.
    3.The giant reminds me of the hobbit because there are giants in the book.
    4.The hobbit is different because those giants like to throw rocks.

  21. 1. The folklore story Brer Rabbit Earns a Dollar-a-Minute has repetition in it.
    2. Brer Rabbit keeps telling Brer Bear that he is making “a dollar-a-minute” so he might be able to escape.
    3. There is always a problem that the protagonist(s) need to solve.
    4. The Hobbit has magic and in it Brer Rabbit does not.

  22. 1. “The Three Billy Goats Gruff” uses repitition.
    2. When the youngest, middle, and oldest goat come across the bridge, the troll gets angry; “Trip, trap, trip, trap,” went the bridge (the goat going across) “Who’s that tripping over my bridge?” says the troll. This goes on three times, once for each goat.
    3. In the goat story, the three goats remind me of the three dwarves, Dori, Thorin, and Gandolf. The troll reminds me of the wolves who want to eat the dwarves, because the troll wants to eat the goats.

    • I’m not sure I’m getting your point with #3. Later in The Hobbit, though, the entire party of dwarves, along with Bilbo, will have to cross a river. At that point in The Hobbit, I see a definite resemblance to “The Three Billy Goats Gruff”.

  23. 1.”Humpty Dumpty”
    2.Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall…ect.
    3.Humpty Dumpty seemed short in the picture book so he is kinda like a dwarf:)
    4.There are no creatures with egg heads in “The Hobbit”

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